Looking the Gift Horse in the Mouth



  • @onyx Hard pass on Red Talons, Shadow Lords and Silver Fangs as well.



  • Being born into it, playing a Get would be interesting. Basically, a Trumpist character concept comes to mind or reject the tribes ideals. Idk, its a fun thought experiment. Back on point with kindred, never played a caitiff or thinblood but I imagine they have a world view in which they are not at the bottom.



  • @browncoyote – clearly they are the best. of the best.



  • My very limited understanding, from a cursory glance, is that caitiff could see themselves as such. As they have escaped the bane of their sire’s clan. A more unfettered existence open to advancement based on their own will. As to thin-bloods, from a scientific perspective, they could see themselves as a mutation of the disease or evolution of Kindred. “The next logical step.”



  • @browncoyote I feel like these are sensible.

    Separately, why do we suck at staying on topic?



  • I mean the Caitiff aren’t exactly “free of the bane of their sires” cause they don’t know who their sires really are, unless they were specifically sired by other Caitiff, which has been happening y’all!



  • @Jess I think it is just the nature of human communication that we digress. There is a linguist named Derek Bickerton that wrote a book “Language and Species” which goes into this at greater length.

    @Duh I differ to your knowledge of the clanless. If only they could organize then they wouldn’t have to pander. 🙂



  • @duh said in Looking the Gift Horse in the Mouth:

    I mean the Caitiff aren’t exactly “free of the bane of their sires” cause they don’t know who their sires really are, unless they were specifically sired by other Caitiff, which has been happening y’all!

    That’s not the only way Caitiff are born. Altough it is certainly the one with the highest chance of survival !

    Sometimes Caitiff do know their sires but are born Caitiff nonetheless. The higher your generations is the most likely the possibility of childering a Caitiff.
    The same is true for a thin-blood or at least before V5.

    You didn’t need to be of the 14th or higher to be a thin-blood. But those are always born Caitiff and thin-blooded.



  • @isadorbg Semantics



  • Nosferatu all the way with a 1000 different masks. 🙂